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Media and Blogs » Play to Win: Ellen Leikind Talks Power, Politics, and Poker on UnCeiling You Podcast

Play to Win: Ellen Leikind Talks Power, Politics, and Poker on UnCeiling You Podcast 36t1e

May 15, 2025

You can follow all the rules, do everything “right,” and still find yourself ed over, talked over, or just plain overlooked at work. Sound familiar? Then episode 19 of UnCeiling You with Natalie Luke, PhD, featuring PokerDivas founder Ellen Leikind, is your wake-up call—and your strategy guide.

Ellen doesn’t mince words. Whether she’s holding cards or calling out the hidden rules of office politics, she’s all about helping women stop playing it safe and start playing to win. On the podcast, she shares how poker principles can help you navigate key relationships, assert yourself with intention, and make bold moves that actually move the needle.

Key Takeaways 453o3v

Here are just a few of the game-changing insights she drops (consider this your highlight reel):

Playing Not to Lose Is Still Losing 4f3338

Too many talented women hold back—waiting for permission, fearing they’ll be seen as too aggressive or simply not wanting to rock the boat. But Ellen makes it clear: Playing it safe is the riskiest move you can make.

You’re Already in the Game—So Learn the Rules 3r1t1o

Office politics isn’t optional. You’re either playing it, or it’s being played around (or on) you. Ellen breaks down how to spot the game, read the players, and start making strategic choices instead of reactive ones.

Being Assertive Is a Leadership Strength, Not a Flaw 5w5c5q

Own your voice. Ask for what you want. Negotiate like your success depends on it—because it does. Ellen shares real-life client wins that came from doing exactly that.

Know Who’s Holding the Cards 371u5a

It’s not just about who has the title—it’s about who has the influence. Ellen dives into the importance of building relationships with decision-makers, who will speak up for you even when you are not in the room.

Define Your Own Win 1g2y52

Not everyone wants the corner office. Wins can manifest in many different ways and often change over time. But you do need to know what success looks like for you and make your plan to go after it.

The Bottom Line? 3rm

Poker isn’t just about cards—it’s a mindset. And as Ellen reminds us, you already have what it takes. You just need to play the game, be the bettor, and stop folding too soon.

Ready to stop playing small and start making bold moves? Listen to Ellen’s conversation on UnCeiling You and get the unfiltered strategies every ambitious professional needs to hear.

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What Clients Are Saying f591b

This is an entertaining and enlightening book. And dangerous. Take the title seriously: It really is written to give women an advantage in virtually every area of life, from poker to business to personal relationships. Which is the reason every male and female poker player, and non-poker player, should read it. Ellen Leikind analyzes the games of poker and life in a straight-forward manner, with many examples, to make the lessons easy to apply. The transitions can be fascinating. Take ‘Playing with Fire: Trading on Attraction,’ Read it, if only in self-defense.

– Nelson Rose, Editor and Chief, Gaming Law Review

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